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killa
03-22-2005, 06:53 PM
well fellas take a read
rampage:
It was a good run over the years fellas. I make real plenty friends, had real plenty fun in sweats, a good time, a very good time. Time have come for me to leave G@TT though, i've had enough of it, i tried to change things up, really really really tried, when most give up i was still fighting it down, but i realise that things go never change, no matter what. A lot of people told me that i was wasting my time, trying to improve G@TT, trying to make it a better organization, hell i should have listened to them, i kept thinking perhaps i can improve it, make it better somehow. I guess it was a waste of time, i never wanted to throw away the work i did, and i talking about A LOT of work, half of which most of you probably won't even see as it's behind the scenes work.

The problem was with the management of G@TT, not the people, so don't think that i'm leaving because of some regular G@TT member or something, not at all. When i was 13yrs old, i wanted to join the G@TT Core, i sent many many emails, asked many members of the core at that time, no such luck. I wanted to make a difference, even back then at such a young age. Even at that age i saw problems with the management, at times the Core will call a vote or a decision had to be made, and all the core's vote would be over-run by one man...is that one man that make me decide to buss it today. I don't want to call any names an thing but i sure most of you know who i talking about. I defend that man so much, so much times over so many things, he doesn't even know, i try to work alongside him to improve G@TT and Carigamers, but he liked to operate by himself, a one man army. From the finances go right down to the organization he wanted to have his own way with...can't work in an environment like that at all.

Back when i was 13yrs and trying to get into Core, i couldn't get in no matter how much mails i sent to him or to the Core list itself, eventually due to some people leaving the organization i gradually stepped up in power to be an administrator today, one who challenged this person on many occasions over all his actions over the years. About three years ago when i left Trinidad i use to watch the sweat roster list, and i watched and watched, everyweek i would notice that one or two of my friends who i sweat long and hard with stopped attending sweat. Back then we had 50+ men in a sweat, lots of competition, lots of gaming, lots of fun, but even back then there were problems with the management. Late last year one of my friends and i thought about starting over G@TT, with a proper nice administration basically, but that "one" man again over-ruled us basically. I then went ahead and decided to form a mini-administration group, made up of the admins you see on the site currently. I spoke to each of them, they were willing to help, i asked them what they could help with, they told me, i gave them some assignments that they can do to help out. All went along nicely. Team worked descent enough to me. While this mini-administration team worked there was one man who decided to operate on his own, who felt we don't matter, we not important, his decision was G@TT's decision.

Over the years of G@TT so far, three new organizations have formed, when i questioned each of the newly formed organizations core and asked them why, they all said it was because of the "one" man. Each of the organizations core members were actually once part of G@TT's Core who left because they got fedup of G@TT, just like i am fedup of it today. I do so much work for this organization eh, so much!!!, everyday i wake up, holidays, christmas day, new years day, when man partying i up working, doing my part in G@TT. Is nice to do plenty work at times but what does really kill you is that you working with a team and 1 person not co operating at all, not sticking to plan, doing his own will. It real hard to move forward with that kind of attitude yes. All hours of the day and thing you working, no sleep an all, and then you does remember what does go on with the management, does sicken you oui. At 13yrs i wanted to join the CORE, eventually CORE didn't exist anymore, the core members dive out and are currently inactive or fedup of G@TT, the founders of the organization left and don't even care about it anymore (i don't blame them one bit), infact one of the founders formed a new gaming organization on February 4th 2005.

Hell i even design a new site, to throw away the bad old stuff, and start a new, cleaner G@TT. That is when G@TT 7.0 (site version) came into place. In some cases, some people can change, even if it's a little bit, but that's only with some people yes. The same level of nonesense came over on the new site, only this time the management started off a lot worst. Started off with just Nijelian and I. From there i gave Scar and Rb admin power, and they both did a good job, i form a lil team with the mods, admins an thing, we had things working a bit.

Even without the help of Nijelian, hell he did nothing online, he promoted nothing he didn't create himself or owns. Can't operate with someone like that at all, and this morning i see that ultra clearly yes, i see it so clear that i just said the hell with it an call it george. How can an admin not promote things that going on within his own organization? I'm sure if you ask him he'll say he promotes everything, yada yada, BULL SHI*!! You'll should see how he really promotes stuff, tells everyone to get it, sends on mailing lists, makes announcement, the full works. He did none of that for anything whatsoever that i did, i created, i controlled, i managed. Hell we had an anime team an all, called G.E.A.T, he did nothing in terms of helping out, promoting, or even self hosting our files in GLs or what-not. I made so many things for G@TT, from web games, to actual software right back down to sites, scripts, etc.

He wanted to have nothing to do with any of them, never used them, never signed up on them or even asked if he could help out. He is a one man army, one who promotes his own things and his things alone, one who doesn't care about anyone else and what they do, dismisses their arguments and brings their personal relationships with anyone into it (Some of you know what i talking about here). When euro+ was in existence and he was manager over there, man didn't even pay any attention to HQ(D.E.S.T), i had to private message the owner and try to promote it because he was only studying euro+ and comparing euro's pc specs+number of pcs to that of HQ's. Amazing how things turn out, The owner of HQ not even a G@TT member anymore, D.E.S.T is not even G@TT HQ anymore, they form their own organization, because they fedup (i don't blame them one bit).

Anyway the month is currently March, i in G@TT for about 5 or more years now, enough is enough, i fedup of it. All the friends i make, men i sweat with back then etc, none of them care/active/business/sweating with G@TT anymore. How could an organization that was so active with 50+ men in sweat every weekend without fail, with a core of over 10 men, just fail just like that? That's the question to ask in life yes. Over the past few weeks i was working on GATTSoft, a software that i was using to bring G@TT to your desktop, easier access, the full works to G@TT services, and i actually completed it yes, is a shame that i leaving now, and is even a bigger shame that the admin who i'm talking about bad talk it, even went as far as saying it have trojans in it, never used it and encouraged people to use other seperate software.

I try folks, i try real hard, i wanted to stay and make things better, i even told Nijelian at some time that he can do his own thing and i go do mind, just make sure that he doesn't cross my path, unfortunately he have done so and messed up my plans too many times, he have the organization stagnant, gamecon buss, clan wars buss, hell clans buss on the whole, G@TT is special in nothing, if you are to go out in the road and ask a GATTer what special about G@TT, that person won't be able to say anything. Is not the members of the organization, is the management.

No kind of training sessions, real competition or anything like that. Tournaments disorganized and lame, organization not going anywhere. It have talant in G@TT, some people have real talant, is a shame that you'll talant not going to reach anywhere or get recognized in the organization. That's alright though, you can always call it george, there are now two more that you can try out anyhow. I just too tired to type out all the reasons for leaving yes, argued way too much, seen way too much crap happen, time to call it george, i hope you'll understand. And to those who i argue with a bit (nitrate for instance), i still cool with you'll, some times people have bad days, it was nothing personal, i still respect you nitrate don't worry, i wish you good luck in your career in computer security, maybe some day i'll be calling Nitrate's security consultancy firm or something.

Good luck to all of you GATTers!

*Note: For those of you who are wondering what will happen to G.E.A.T...well....G.E.A.T is no more. We are reforming, new name, new domain, nothing related to G@TT, more information on this later*


Anyway, i must say thanks to plenty people, real people yes, so much oui.

Thanks to bad man like wrecker, we sweat plenty times, nuff sweat iwmc!! You always was a good friend, don't worry though, me leaving G@TT not going to affect our friendship

Thanks to rb, you went through a lot of bothering, all hours of the day and night i asking you to help out with images in all of my G@TT tasks, you're an important man, thanks very much for the help over the years.

Thanks to scar, you conducted the news on the G@TT site for real long, i was real busy with other G@TT stuff so i couldn't help out much, i did make threads about G@TT needing help an thing with news reporters, i also included a page about that in gattsoft during the installation so people couldn't miss it, and i also added the forum news thing to the site so people can help you easier. You also did a great job at managing bnet.carigamers.com. From the maps, downloads, site design, etc.

Thanks to synth, maddist(coldstorm), kheulith. The three serious members of the G.E.A.T team. Even without much support from the G@TT Administration (beside me) we went very far, to conducting as much as 1gb in anime downloads from the GEAT site, very well done. Synth de dan dadda tech guru iwmc! Nuff respect !!

Thanks to kayode & maxx. They both help me out a lot and were some of the few who actually msged an thing to find out how i was going and not just to get a file or something. I see kayode argue a lot about what going on in G@TT, you were taken for granted my friend, people don't release that the reason some people argue is because they care and don't want to see something go to waste. Small thing yes, gs sb

Thanks to spoilt, opium, psycho, neo, neon, ghost(we sweat plenty back in the day, i ain't forget you), paradoxxx, scorpion. You'll assisted or wanted to assist financially when i needed a videocard, don't think i forgot you'll, things like that i go never forget, go always be greatful. No matter what organization, country, etc you'll in i go still be friends with you'll smile.gif We play real game together, infact spoilt, opion, neon and ghost were X men, back then X was a serious clan which participated in many games and played other clans etc, now clan wars an stuff basically dead in this organization.

Thanks corbeaux, froggy, czar, bushman, chunkypanday for hosting the game servers and helping me out with my plans an thing in G@TT, without you'll online gaming would be nothing in this organization.

Thanks hidden!!! a serious helper immc, you already know for what

Thanks to cereal_killer, supreme and kukka(vcw), you'll wanted to help out a lot with my plans for G@TT, and i don't mean to dissappoint you'll by leaving but i just really really can't stand it anymore, it does sicken me. When i hear the name "G@TT" i does just steups in my mind now yes.

Thanks to many others, names just running through my head now yes, i go spend all day thanking people oui, now i not even thinking , hands moving on its own oui, i go thank the rest of you later. Even if i leaving, i not upset with any of you, i still friends with you, will still help you out, etc. Fear not!

Thanks to Nijelian too, you help out with the videocard, and was a good friend in real life when it didn't come to anything related to an organization.


Rampage
-Former G@TT Admin

Latoneyde
03-22-2005, 07:09 PM
I not suprised about this... From when i was in G@TT he was complainin about Nijelian and he one man scene...

GG ramps.. gg.........

loki
03-22-2005, 07:15 PM
as i said on the G@TT forums :

good bye to the hardest working man in G@TT
gg ramps

Hidden
03-22-2005, 07:30 PM
There are no goodbyes, rampage will always be around .

eks
03-22-2005, 07:45 PM
Damn right-man pick heself up and make he moves. Not gone, just moving to somewhere better IMO.

I make my move out long time from there when I ketch what was going on.

GG there Ramps.

loki
03-22-2005, 07:47 PM
true eh dinesh
he will always be around
but this announcement has lots of drawbacks for G@TT as boxy has pointed out to me in a convo.

Hidden
03-22-2005, 07:51 PM
Lots of drawbacks?
It's like a car moving with a force forward of 1N
BUt then, all of a sudden, the coefficient of friction change to 40
(lil joke, I feel killa go catch it:)

G@TT ein't going anyway now , DEFINATELY.
Rampage was the most powerful engine providing powerr, no more engine, resistance becomcs too much, deceleration occurs.

I'm curious to see who Nijelian is going to get to keep his site up to date, host it, etc

killa
03-22-2005, 07:58 PM
yes as i told loki in t he convo :)
to be honest i th ink that rampage's leaving G@TT will have serious serious negative effects on the association...for sure for sure online things will not be organised as efficiently as b4
ramp is still meh boy th ough

eks
03-22-2005, 08:19 PM
I'd like to see Nj pick up the slack all by heself now.

Entertainment iwmc.

Latoneyde
03-22-2005, 08:27 PM
Quote from Nijelian on G@TT site

gg ramp.

the only constant it seems, is change.

You have given us yeoman's service over the years. Going above and beyond. No matter how fast I ran with G@TT, when I turned to the side, there was always one man running right along...Rampage.

Keeping pace and even setting the pace in more recent times.

When others faltered, you rose to the challenge.

Like my moms always thought me, let go and let God.

I trust the best will come of this.

Hopefully others will now rise from our ranks to take the helm as G@TT's greatest and lead the way into the future.

Don't fret, suhuweat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seems like a cover up? We all know ramp was the one trying to run ahead... but kept being pulled back by good ole Nijelian... Dunno who Nijelian tryin to fool.. wait i know

eks
03-22-2005, 08:33 PM
Take the helm? Man even all the rats done ride out off that ship man. Nutting left to eat there.

Hidden
03-22-2005, 08:49 PM
Nijelian is sad.......that is the post he's going to make?

killa
03-22-2005, 08:53 PM
i sure he musbe call ramp begging him not 2 go
and ramp say FIA BUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ramp go finally ha more time for the ladies oui :P

SPK
03-22-2005, 09:03 PM
LOL.

Man like Ramps finally get some sense in he head oui!

Run to the light, and don't look back dred!!!

Paradoxxx
03-22-2005, 09:08 PM
GG Ramp, I can not deny the work that you have done for G@TT and for gaming in Trinidad and Tobago. I hope that rampage knows that we are there for him, he has not lost friends with his leave.

If rampage can see that this 'one ring to rule them all' mentality that is G@TT not working, the masses just may.

This leaving could however cause a collapse in the gaming community, persons could just get turned off gaming and just decide to leave the 'gaming scene' which was already happening in G@TT, ramp leaving just may catalyse this.

As Hardcore gamers we should all try and support the culture and not let it die. GAMERS isnt for everyone, I know that, ppl know that. In that case there is always VGA. VGA has some faces that these gamers will be familiar with and VGA hopes to fix the probs that exist in the current G@TT.

The more ppl we have in the mix the more competition we would have, whether they be GAMERS VGA or G@TT support gaming in anyway you can even if it extends beyond your org.

Latoneyde
03-22-2005, 09:10 PM
Nijelian hadda take a backseat and <> [] xx () {} heself

Itachi
03-23-2005, 03:55 PM
no lats nijelian needs to stop taking a backseat and [] heself cuz thas why his org sad in de first place and thas why it gonna die,i mean come on,serious shit goin down and last nite all de man wanna do is play tetris,and i mash him up in that so i mean he org dead and he get mash up in tetris from a 16 year old with ADD,thas kinda sad,and he not makin an attempt to make it any better,he just lying down and dying dred,thas kinda sad,but then again both ways he go look like a jackass,cuz he lookin stupid lying dere doin nothin and if he try and bring it back it go have men who go say ooo look nijelian tryin to carry on when that is virtually impossible,or maybe i just talkin shit ? who knows oui :s

androsovic
03-23-2005, 06:12 PM
Well G@TT seriously gone through and it didnt really take ramp leaving to see that.
1)The forums dead,i.e nothing with substance
2)The chat dead
3)G@TT GL's gone thtough (Sns really sux)
4)nobody i know does associate themselves with G@TT
thats about it

Paradoxxx
03-24-2005, 04:11 PM
With the leaving of rampage marks the END of yet another generation of gatters and another will be formed. Its like every now and then ppl wize up and ride out all because of the

'One ring to rule them all' attitude.

Nijelian doesnt even attempt to try and fix things, he just covers em up, discredits the people that dont agree with him and continues, he calls this postiveness but there are other words that come to mind.

The man could never be wrong, he really thinks that he is doing something good. Like the 'bad guys' in the movies, he believes in his injustices to the point that its a 'justice'. G@TT members are nothing more than statistics used to fuel his personal gains.


Ramp the nations gamers have your back. I can safely say GAMERS got your back.


As for Nijelian, GG hoss, SB
If you cyah change
() <> {} [] || yahself and retire.

killa
03-24-2005, 05:24 PM
well said para and what Nijelian really needs 2 do is take an industrial strength bracket
|[ ]|
no escaping that nah :P

Paradoxxx
03-24-2005, 05:56 PM
Reinforced bracket
look thing!!!

eks
03-24-2005, 06:35 PM
New invention by Killa there Para.

Yuh should let him patent it and trademark it before it get teef.

killa
03-24-2005, 06:40 PM
|[ eks ]| for even thinking about it getting stolen :@

eks
03-24-2005, 06:41 PM
Doh make me get d hammer eh boy-reinforcementation have NUTTIN on a man like me with a hammer :P

Still say trademark it man.

Nailes
03-25-2005, 10:11 AM
Thread has been locked as expected , now all is needed is a little time to pass and a few more new "ignorant of the facts members" to join them and as the months & years pass by rampage's contribution will be changed and his status also to that of trouble maker and exile. That is how he will be remembered in the future by the majority of new people coming into the organisation and that is the sad truth.

For all the future rampage's, para's, ghost's, angel's , rum's, loki's, kayode's, menace's and the long list of people who have the heart and passion to put trini gaming somewhere, and choose to sacrifice and serve.
We all here have a responsibility to ensure they are saved, saved before years of service, blood, sweat & their precious time & talent are wasted on serving one man's pocket rather than the greater good.

Looking back at it now when I created G@TT I hoped it would be a chariot of hope and brilliance to bring my people onto the world stage one day and showcase our abundant natural talent and passion for a nation so small. Yes rampage this is why Viper is always so angry, so always full of Hate towards that man & I am not ashamed to say that I do hate him beyond mere mortal words can ever describe, may god have mercy on me for that in my heart but that is my truth. One man corrupts the vision of beauty and excellence I created into something evil & monstrous that continues to hurt individuals and local gaming as a whole, while pretending to be a man of god to add more insult to injury.

Looking back at it now I blame myself, maybe I should not have left, maybe I should have just assumed a dicatator like role and gotten rid of all the thrash elements until more sensible men joined the organisation that could really make a difference and were of pure heart in their intent. I wish I could take you all back to that time to show you the level of passion, dedication & talent that was there. People like rampage and para and the many others were more the norm rather than the exception as it is now, a lot of people walked away or just disappeared the day I walked away. People who could have given so much and done so much in many different areas to bring gaming to where it should be rather than the reality of where it is now.

No matter how much I try to explain to some of you that think gaming is doing well now, if you could just see what it was like back then , then maybe you will understand where it should be now , so much more... All is well fellas doh study old vipes , I'm just an old fool with a stupid dream ... Senile immc, but diehard till my last breath .... I made Nijelian a promise 5 years ago, the day we last spoke on the phone after he said some things to me & I intend to keep that promise, now more than ever as yet another of pure intent has been used. GG fellas this old warrior still have some fire in him & I think it is time to remind Nijelian why they call me Viper....

Paradoxxx
03-26-2005, 01:59 AM
A serious post indeed, Nijelian gets to all of us sometimes the man has that natural aura.

We hadda forget bout him and just continue our good work. I wouldnt want to see other persons end up in the same shoes as rampage but once you make that effort its not going to look good on your part, Nijelian will make sure of that.

In Nijelians eyes all we 'exiles' do is try and bad talk G@TT. He thinks we formed GAMERS to touple G@TT when in reality it was made to enchance gaming and carry it to the next level (international).

Over our short span we have created a community of hardcore gamers, promoted friendly yet fierce competition and hosted a good few tournaments. All these things pale in comparision to what we intend to offer the gaming community in the upcoming months, the gaming community seems pleased to some extent and thats all that matters.

Lets focus on the future, I am personally fed up with Nijelian. I had my days of preaching... Vipes just sweat some bnet and forget bout him, he isnt worth using your 'level 6' in time he will dig his own grave and answer to GOD.

Rampage has started a community called trinitaku that focuses on Anime and Anime related stuff. He has moved on and kept his opinions to himself (atleast to me). Lets focus some chi in his direction and give him a good start.

http://www.trinitaku.com
TSTT is experiencing some DNS issues so it may fail, but give it a shot later

rumbelly
03-26-2005, 02:31 AM
yea i checked out that trinitaku site, nice little site , excellent site design

very simple and user friendly

looks like it will blow up pretty quickly, might even make ME start to watch anime

^_^