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bushman
12-16-2005, 01:38 AM
Ok after doing this for maby few months id like to offer my service to any 1 who needs cosmetic work done to a computer case.

LIST OF MODS:

Creating Fan mount holes/ Extending fan mount holes from 80mm rite up to 120MM on any METAL area of case.

Engraving of simple graphics and simple writing on any METAL surface

Dust proofing of case

Automotive paint job.

Case lighting led's/window lasers/strobes/

I dont go plastic work nor fiberglass adding case windows will require buying a kit whihc i can install but thats it.

Cable job. eg hide alot lf your cables to improve air flow. convert wide ide cables to thin ide cables.

Cost: FREE labour + cost of materials eg to cut maby 3 holes and a side window dullen a few edges wil require 1 fiberglass blade which cost like 60 bucks for a pack of 4.

Hidden
12-16-2005, 05:07 AM
Talk about a free service ;) Thanks bushy

CRaZYMoFo
12-16-2005, 11:32 AM
damn i was hoping to see some pics an ting

couple of pplz and myself decided a few months ago to organise a modding crew sometime soon :)

glad to see we not be the only onez :D

bushman
12-16-2005, 11:48 AM
well im not a pro so cant really charge any 1. is only 2 month ago i bought tools eg 40k rpm dremel buncha attachments. the painting is a link i have in a car company. so he doin the painting on the down low.

if paradoxx will sticky this ill post pictures ect

bushman
12-16-2005, 01:58 PM
modding crew is cool. i have access to circular bandsaws and spot welders

androsovic
12-16-2005, 02:34 PM
well bush,me n crazy were organisin sumting...who knows maybe we can link up next yr.

opium
12-16-2005, 08:51 PM
yeah i go make it a sticky
but i tink we should get para to do it

is nice to have a modding crew in trinidad to run some showcasing

Paradoxxx
12-18-2005, 12:03 PM
Nice idea, topic is pinned, make sure and post pics of cases you fixed up.

androsovic
02-18-2006, 08:14 PM
*ahem*
well this was my first case mod,didnt come out how i wanted it to but it still came out ok.This is a dell dimension my parents got,and since im not a dell fan,i therefore found my first victim..er.project. :)

Materials used:
Dremel
About 2 discs
Automotive vinyl
A cd case (for the window)
CCFL Cold cathode blue lights

Pics in timely order:

http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/dell/cut1.jpg
The scratches on it there was a result of me being idle with the grinder,lol

http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/dell/window1.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/dell/1.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/dell/2.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/dell/3.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/dell/4.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/dell/5.jpg

T'is all for now,next project might be modding my own case a bit more.Anyway peace :kakashi4:

virusone
02-18-2006, 08:42 PM
ploy ploy dawg... nice 2 C someone has the cahounas to really mod (stick it to) a dell case... ppl all over the world afraid mike might jump on em.... nice job hoss really nice

mojo
02-19-2006, 11:56 AM
nice mod there andro. good job.

Here's what i need. I use a dfi LP UT Nf4 ultra-d board. My memory requires active air cooling (recommended by manufacturer) I dont need the cooling unless i overclcok the memory. I was thinnking about maybe mounting 2 80mm fans directly on top of the memory. My CPU cooler is quite large, so there is no room for a 120mm fan. The mount could use the screw holes at the top of the board. lemme see what u guys can come up with.

here's what the board looks like.
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8017/dfilputnf4ultradboardbig3hr.th.jpg (http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dfilputnf4ultradboardbig3hr.jpg)

here's a pic of what they did at Anandtech when they tested the DIMMS.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9241*mojo%20mcooling2zc.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memcooling2zc.jpg)

androsovic
02-19-2006, 06:27 PM
I had a dream! that i wud get up this morning..and mod! and so i did :)
Installed a 120mm blowhole and fixed the 80mm "grill" at the back.
Images:

http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/1.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/2.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/3.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/4.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/5.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/6.jpg

(part 1 of 2)

androsovic
02-19-2006, 06:32 PM
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/7.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/8.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/9.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/10.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/modding/mypc/11.jpg

had to use ties on the rear 80mm cuz i ****ed up teh screws

(part 2 of 2)

CRaZYMoFo
02-19-2006, 07:28 PM
good stuff andro :)
will be joining you once my stuff gets a lil older lol

mofo you cuda hit me a msg, didnt know u needed some advice on that.

here is what i did some time ago. my setup has changed a bit. im now using the stock fan from my x2 3800+ instead. Present cable management is also much better. this is an old pic from when i just got the system up and running. serves its purpose here to help mojo though ;)
They are just zip tied to the top of the big typhoon :D
http://crazyangel.ultra-gamers.com/crazy%20ram%20cooling.JPG

mojo
02-19-2006, 09:40 PM
props to andro with 2 modds for the weekend. I might check yuh when i buy a new case.

I think i go try that out crazy and let u know how it goes.

Hidden
02-19-2006, 10:33 PM
Cut them toe nails andro.

bushman
02-19-2006, 11:02 PM
thise 2 fans over your memory make no sence.
all your doing is sucking hot air from your cpu onto your ram, pointless.

mojo
02-20-2006, 03:31 AM
if teh cpu is at 33 degrees, that means that the air around the cpu is either equal or less. (First Law of Thermodynamics). I would say that that blistering hot air @ 33 deg is not so bad when considering teh memory temp is getting quite high.

Paradoxxx
02-20-2006, 12:03 PM
Nice to see andro took the plunge and did a very nice mod. I like what you did with the dell :)

bushman
02-20-2006, 12:28 PM
so if the cpu and the air around it is 33 thne how does blowing the same temperature air make any sence ? the point of AIR cooling is to introduce air of lower temperature onto the parts your trying to cool.

also the air thats being dispersed by the cpu can never be the same te,perature as the surrounding air unless your using phase change cooling. wat your doing is recycling air in your case which infact can do more harm than good.

2nd observation is your 120mm exhaust fan thats rite their is drawing maby 50cfm ? so basically your fans their are just spinning and not really delivering any air onto your ram.

so dont gotta take my advice but thsoe 2 fans are a waste of time like i said before. hpwever if u would liek to try to cool your ram with air u can mount them in a different way.

CRaZYMoFo
02-20-2006, 01:31 PM
Those fans are not there anymore. That is an old pic that i posted to show mojo something. Neither are all those messy cables. I should take some new pics oui

Also those fans did drop my temps (especially the PWMIC) and the system did seem more stable. No disadvantages having them there for me.

Until I get some more extra $$ I cant really improve my airflow but I hav no probs right now and that is all that matters. I do plan to mount the fan differently and will share any ideas I come up with ;)

opium
02-20-2006, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by bushman@Feb 20 2006, 11:28 AM
so if the cpu and the air around it is 33 thne how does blowing the same temperature air make any sence ? the point of AIR cooling is to introduce air of lower temperature onto the parts your trying to cool.

also the air thats being dispersed by the cpu can never be the same te,perature as the surrounding air unless your using phase change cooling. wat your doing is recycling air in your case which infact can do more harm than good.

2nd observation is your 120mm exhaust fan thats rite their is drawing maby 50cfm ? so basically your fans their are just spinning and not really delivering any air onto your ram.

so dont gotta take my advice but thsoe 2 fans are a waste of time like i said before. hpwever if u would liek to try to cool your ram with air u can mount them in a different way.
Quoted post



u serious need to go back to school or really check the readings of yuh case

first water cooling doh keep yuh case cooler

infact water cooling is ah HUGE waste of time money and only benfit is less noise

another thing is the temp of yuh cpu is a little higher than the temp in yuh case

now with big HSF like mines and what para and crazy have we cpu temps about the same as the case temps yes 120mm HSF does wonders

and the fans over the ram ?
yes it does keep yuh ram cooler, ah man like u dat doh use expensive high clock ram wont know that :P

i dont have a fan over my ram but my cpu fan does have a good flow to it and i also have a extra 120mm fan blowing air over it while the case 120mm fans removes that
hot air

if ram never need cooling why do they have heat speaders on it? to look cool?

Paradoxxx
02-20-2006, 02:56 PM
The air from the CPU HS is going to be above that of the ambient temp. We are blowing 'case air' on to a hot HS and thus the air temp will rize.

Bush is trying to say that it is not recommended to use air that has already been used to cool a device to cool another. Which is common sense.

Bush made reference to phasecooling and not water which cools the ambient temps significantly and thus using air that passes over this to cool your ram/system is cool :)

This is a big topic, trying to get maximum FLOW while minimizing on dust and noise etc etc reusing the same air over and over isn't cool.

gambitt
02-20-2006, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by bushman@Feb 20 2006, 12:28 PM
so if the cpu and the air around it is 33 thne how does blowing the same temperature air make any sence ? the point of AIR cooling is to introduce air of lower temperature onto the parts your trying to cool.

also the air thats being dispersed by the cpu can never be the same te,perature as the surrounding air unless your using phase change cooling. wat your doing is recycling air in your case which infact can do more harm than good.

2nd observation is your 120mm exhaust fan thats rite their is drawing maby 50cfm ? so basically your fans their are just spinning and not really delivering any air onto your ram.

so dont gotta take my advice but thsoe 2 fans are a waste of time like i said before. hpwever if u would liek to try to cool your ram with air u can mount them in a different way.
Quoted post


A good question.

Short answer: Wind chill.

Long answer: It has to do with the way heat gets moved. In this case it would be convection to the air in the case. Convection causes the fluid in the case, in this case air to move and take the heat with it. But if we put in a fan, it causes the air to move faster, so it can take more heat off of the component faster. (Think of it as enhanced convection and so faster heat loss.)

Now blowing cool air will take off more heat than blowing hot air, and that's why we try to create a pathway for the air in our cases, sucking in cool air (usually from the bottom) and blwoing out the hot air (usually at the top). Or even this http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/25/syt...therm_ics_8200/ (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/25/sytrin_nextherm_ics_8200/)

Water cooling is even more efficient, because the specific heat capacity of air smaller than the specific heat capacity of water. That means that every gram of water that passes takes a crap load more heat to raise its temperature by 1 degree, so the system can take more heat away from a component, if the rates of flow of the cooling fluid is equivalent.

The fans in that case could be just spinning, the way you say, but if they are facing in the right directions they could all be enhancing the movement of air and so the rate of convection.

If you want totally silent (well not totally for some rather strange reasons) peltier cooling is what you want. Not the way they have done in the case above, but actually mounting the peltier cool end on the CPU, GPU and whatever else and putting some active cooling on the hot end. So long as you are able to keep cranking the power to the system up and cool the hot end, you can have sub zero temps and more.

Check it out.

doomtack
02-20-2006, 05:11 PM
Doh mean to be off topic.. but since d topic at hand is cooling... :mellow:

i wanted to get a start on ocing my sempron 2200+
but so far d temps on my cpu starts at 41 and goes to 51 after intense using...
an i know dat not good enough. <_<

rite now i not sure wat cooling in dere so far... all i know is dat apart from d cpu fan, i got 2 smaller fans at th bottom of th case

so wa ya'll suggest i get?

nazi_rat
02-20-2006, 11:59 PM
hey bush man if i give u a clean white case ( yes a normal case) can u mod it up for me? like put some kinda grahpical desighn on it and fix it real cool!?
cuz if so i can give it to u buy saturday (if i get transport )

bushman
02-21-2006, 12:45 AM
depends on wat u want done. but yes i can do it after carnival.
when it comes to designs they cant be too fancy as that would take days to do a proper engraving.

tell me wat u want me to do and ill tell u if i can do it.
and also it depends on how much u want to spend on materials

ral cool to me would maby be putting a nice white 2 tone pearl paint on it veyr high glossy finish. add some extra blowholes and create a positive air pressure in the case with some nice 70 cfm neon fans installed. i could go even further and buy a window kit. maby cut the window out in a nice shape maby a nice easy to cut symbol like claws and maby use red laser leds on the window alone hmmmmmmmm.

any way wats your budget.


also u dont need money to improve your cooling, its making a case nice and fancy looking that cpost moula. card board tape and some sponges dont really cost alot and can usually be found around the house. most expencive parts proberly will be fans, which for me i have a few always lying around and i bet most of you do as well.

a proper airducting job on the inside of your case can reduce your cpu and video card temperatures better than like 99% of the water cooling units available. only thing better is phase change and liquid nitrogen

bushman
02-21-2006, 01:00 AM
1 question though is exactly how did you measure your rams temperatures ?

also here is a example of some aidducting i used to have in my case.
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1187/

note only downfalls ive found when using this is

i reccomend u remove it when moving the pc long distances
and make sure u get it done proerly dont rush it and risk damageing your pc parts as ive learnt from experience, its like the saying measure twice cut once.

Paradoxxx
02-21-2006, 09:30 AM
Nice link, I think his 'update' is more practical should anyoen want to mod their PC in this way.

bushman
02-21-2006, 10:19 AM
but likemi said it takes a steady hand and somebody with alittle vision as each job will be different because of motherboards and all your other parts. heck u mite have to think of a new way to do it entirely. but the point is once u get it doneit will work wonder.s first time i did it i was amazed to the temperatures olf my video card.

Thye droped so drastically simply because all the air hitting it was 100% cooler air from the outside as all the hot nasty air from the cpy and ram where being shot straight outsider with no chance of recycling. also cp temperatures drop alot as well because of same reason.

nazi_rat
02-21-2006, 12:21 PM
is all that got gona cost more than 300 bux?

bushman
02-21-2006, 01:21 PM
like i said it depends on wta u want me to do. fans cost moula paing depending on wat colours and how many coates u want cost money. im painting my old case a black 2 tone pearl with a protective mirror finish. i added a extra 80mm fan port to the back and fan port at the side of the case to blow air onto my graphics card. all im gonna do is buy some red led high cfm fans which cost 95 tt each.

wat i can maby do is cut the wholes and paint it for you 1 coat of a highgloss paint. but note 1 coat will proberly scratch easily. im not sure how much 1 coat will cost but ill find out.

nazi_rat
02-21-2006, 06:45 PM
can u post of a pic of yrs when u done wit it?

bushman
02-21-2006, 09:02 PM
i havent painted it yet. so far all ive done is sand it down add some extra blow holes and remove some of the rust.

Im thinking of maby doing some more cutting to remove some weight. idont hjave the money yet to paint it. buykng the new parts first before i invest in the paint job.

androsovic
02-21-2006, 09:35 PM
forgot to post these:
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/inside.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/inside1.jpg
http://androsovic.ultra-gamers.com/Pix/inside2.jpg

mojo
02-21-2006, 10:22 PM
hey andro, just thought i'll mention that those 2 hdds gonna die a lot faster if u have them glued together like that. heat kills hdds really fast.

androsovic
02-21-2006, 10:38 PM
hmm,thx,any solutions though?

mojo
02-21-2006, 10:41 PM
Drill four screw holes on the bottom of teh case. your chasis will be one huge heatsink :P

Use speedfan (http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php) to monitor your hdd temps.

warrior56
11-18-2006, 09:08 PM
yo man like wat u did....only thing is that u could hav sanded it down a little...u kno do some more fine datails.... anyways here is a look at wat i do...i also do it for ppl at very reasonable prices.....

B4 I modded it was pre modded but I didn’t like it …..

After I did my magic

And well u can see I did wire sorting and added a TERMAL TAKE GOLDEN ORB II

Night shot sorry bout the bad quality…ohh by the way this rig is called XBLADEBEASTRIG
Specs for this bad boi is
ASUS A8N-sli premium
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ cooled with Termal Takes GOLDEN ORB II
BFG Geforce 7800 GT OC
Kingston 1Gb RAM
Plenty fans and other modes by me….

hey i doh kno if the pics will come out if they dont can someone tell me how to do it???

Berzerk
12-18-2006, 01:13 PM
nothing uber powerful, jus my new rig with the thermaltake viking casing.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3807/pccasevikingeu9.jpg

ecktt
12-18-2006, 01:38 PM
nothing uber powerful, jus my new rig with the thermaltake viking casing.

I'll donate 5 tie wraps and a hot glue stick to ur wiring cause! :P

Berzerk
12-18-2006, 01:44 PM
lol.

put this together last week havent been inside since to organise wiring and somesuch.

androsovic
12-18-2006, 02:29 PM
clean up dem cables and u good to go :)

Antics_
12-18-2006, 03:51 PM
hmm seems men have nottin 2 do wit there pc, all dat jus 2 see d dell light up. nah fellas nah.. best u get ah alien ware or s blade case, an throw in d neons an stuff.

soldier
12-18-2006, 10:51 PM
W00t. cases. :D

I think my cablin is neat.

http://soldier.trinigamers.com/PC/muss%20organise%20dey%20mc.JPG

http://soldier.trinigamers.com/PC/cable3.JPG

http://soldier.trinigamers.com/PC/Cable1.JPG

http://soldier.trinigamers.com/PC/Cable2.JPG

http://soldier.trinigamers.com/PC/cable4.JPG

http://soldier.trinigamers.com/PC/Cable5.JPG

http://soldier.trinigamers.com/PC/Cable6.JPG

Well at least i think it neat.. it looks neatish.. neater than bezerk. lol

androsovic
12-18-2006, 11:02 PM
hmm seems men have nottin 2 do wit there pc, all dat jus 2 see d dell light up. nah fellas nah.. best u get ah alien ware or s blade case, an throw in d neons an stuff.

yea...pay 5 and 600 dollars for an UGLY ass imitation case with some $60 case mods.makes sense hoss,wonder why i didnt think of that. :mad:

also,there's something called 'thinking outside the box', which,judging from your post, is something that u seem incapable of. thank you and have a nice day sir!

kaizen
12-19-2006, 09:37 AM
yea...pay 5 and 600 dollars for an UGLY ass imitation case with some $60 case mods.makes sense hoss,wonder why i didnt think of that. :mad:

also,there's something called 'thinking outside the box', which,judging from your post, is something that u seem incapable of. thank you and have a nice day sir!

boom headshot!

ecktt
12-19-2006, 11:50 AM
When yuh think about it, most mods doh make much (if any) sense. Its just an artistic endevour and should be judged by that criteria.

btw
Whats the point of buying an Alienware when you could just build an ASUSTek machine urself with the same parts for plenty less. Yes floks, Alienware is just all Asus parts. I eh know if they change brands recently but anyone could build an Alienware with readily avaliable retail parts. There is even a copy of the case. Cheaper HP computer are all Ausu parts as well.

androsovic
12-19-2006, 02:52 PM
When yuh think about it, most mods doh make much (if any) sense. Its just an artistic endevour and should be judged by that criteria.

btw
Whats the point of buying an Alienware when you could just build an ASUSTek machine urself with the same parts for plenty less.

^^ppl do that to enlarge their e-p3n1ses,lol.

custom built over store bought ftw anyday,unless it's a business place or a noob etc :cool:

phoenix31tt
12-19-2006, 04:25 PM
When yuh think about it, most mods doh make much (if any) sense. Its just an artistic endevour and should be judged by that criteria.


nah @ my case mods... all were for performance... wel passically cooling... airflow, huge fans etc...i doh have time to post pics or i would show my current case... which is basically a cheap case... i cut the plexi to fit a larger fan... cut the back of the case to increase airflow... and the top of the case pull out air through the top ftw...

ecktt
12-29-2006, 09:49 PM
Soldier, 3 things:

1) You can hook up the fron Audio ports on the sound card. A little googling should helpp you with that Creative card.

2)Them matted wires can induce signal noise. Daz never a good thing.

3) Yuh could do better than that. An iron core ring can help with the with the front wires and the induction issue. A 10 mins can do wonders for the wiring.

soldier
12-30-2006, 04:52 PM
Noted.. thanks